Paul in France

Buying advice A4 allroad

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Hi,

I'm a new member, and would be very grateful to anyone who could help me navigate the minefield that is choosing an A4 allroad. I have already decided that a 2.0 TDI would fit my needs perfectly, and I would be limited to a 2010/2011 model, purely because of my budget. If anyone has any pointers, they will be very well received especially concerning the different MMI versions.

My wife runs a property care business here in France, so the allroad capability, combined with the space is a great solution for us. Loads of space for gardening stuff.

In the late 90s I was once the proud owner of a jet black 2.0 Audi 80, and must confess after 4 years of ownership I never had a single problem. 

Thanks in anticipation, Paul

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Welcome to the forum Paul, you'll find the members on here are a friendly and helpful bunch :) 

The a4 allroad is a great car and you've gone for a good engine choice. Ideally the car your looking at should have full service history and by now the cambelt and water pump will due to be changed due to age if not mileage. It's worth checking to see if the car you're looking at has had the emissions recall. If it has and it's for sale shortly after this has been carried out then you have to question why. If it were me I'd avoid a VAG car that's for sale and has had the emissions recall carried out in the last 6 months just to be safe.heres a couple of threads which maybe useful: 

Also most allroads were automatics so make sure the gears change smoothly in auto and manual mode as faults can be expensive to fix. It's worth seeing when the gearbox oil was last changed.

Obviously the allroad has Quattro and again it's worth making sure this is working as it should abd worth checking to see when the oil was last changed in this too. Quattro is a great system but can be sensitive to small changes that could cause damage. One example of this is mis-matched tyres on the same axle or uneven tyre wear. 

I've also found this YouTube video which maybe useful:

Overall the allroad is a fantastic car and it'll be very useful for yku. Plus they have good resale values. 

Hope I've helped :) 

Cheers

Steve

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Hi Steve, thanks very much for the comprehensive reply. I had the Cambelt & water pump on my check list, but the other items you also mention are definitely worth checking. I had no idea that the emissions recall had caused so many problems and was so wide-ranging. I read that it only affected the V6/8 models. Living in France I am often very isolated from motoring themes in the UK. I aim to buy from a reputable dealer, simply for confidence and recourse in the event of problems. The prices of used vehicles over here are astronomical. A low mileage 2010/11 2.0 TDI, could be twice as much as in the UK. Don't really mind driving a RHD over here though.

Thanks again for all the information. Very useful advice. So pleased I registered and posted to the forum.

Cheers,

Paul

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You're welcome Paul glad I could help :) 

Thank you for your kind words about the forum we try and have a nice atmosphere on here :) 

Keep us posted on your search and if you want any more help then don't hesitate to ask :) 

Cheers

Steve

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Like Paul, I'm new here and also just buying my first Allroad, will be selling on my 2007 A4 once I get the new car. 

I know the Allroad has had the emissions update, but I can't date when. Selling garage is much aware of the issue and I have a warranty. Cambelt and water pump being done hopefully right now, and a slight suspension knock that's just audible somewhere at the front being looked at.

Body work is pretty clean (it's a 2011), but what I can't get over is just how hammered the wheels are - knocks and gouges all round them, the previous owner must have aimed for every kerb in the country!

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30 minutes ago, Badgerman said:

Like Paul, I'm new here and also just buying my first Allroad, will be selling on my 2007 A4 once I get the new car. 

I know the Allroad has had the emissions update, but I can't date when. Selling garage is much aware of the issue and I have a warranty. Cambelt and water pump being done hopefully right now, and a slight suspension knock that's just audible somewhere at the front being looked at.

Body work is pretty clean (it's a 2011), but what I can't get over is just how hammered the wheels are - knocks and gouges all round them, the previous owner must have aimed for every kerb in the country!

Sounds like you're getting a nice allroad :) shame about the wheels but they can be refurbished. Maybe the garage can do this for you :) 

Hope my advice further up the thread was useful to you :) 

Cheers

Steve

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Thanks Steve. Yes, I've asked him to quote on the wheels but we may hold off for a while as it's really just a cosmetic thing. More urgently, I need to tart up the current car's ones as well for sale purposes (no dings though I'm happy to say, just surface corrosion), as I'll need to move it quickly to minimise insurance costs.

Yes thanks, advice was great. I had no idea that the emissions recall was such a big thing, in fact, I hadn't even heard about it. This one's a manual - how do you check the 4wd is working, please?

BTW this will be Audi No 5 - four A4s and one A3! Anyone would think that we liked them or something......

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Nice to see you are an avid Audi fan :) 

Glad my advice has been helpful :) 

The Quattro system will be permanent and you'll be able to tell if it's working if you have a loss of traction. It's not always easy to text to be honest. 

Yea, it is, it's scary how many faults have been raised after the emissions recall. 

Cheers

Steve

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Thanks again. 

I’ll be honest, we thought about a Volvo but Mrs B insisted it had to be Audi all the way....!

Cheers

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12 hours ago, Badgerman said:

Thanks again. 

I’ll be honest, we thought about a Volvo but Mrs B insisted it had to be Audi all the way....!

Cheers

Volvo's appear nice but I can't be doing with the dash layout. Think the allroad looks nicer than the xc60 or xc70 anyway. 

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Considered the Volvos too, and the VW Tiguan, but the practicality, looks and mpg of the allroad are most appealing. Badgerman, be interested to hear of your opinions once you've had time to get comfortable with the allroad.

cheers

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Sure, Paul. We pick it up on Saturday week, so will look to give first impressions the week after that.

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Paul, car arrived this week. Drove it for the first time today, so very early thoughts but here we go:

It’s certainly quick - after our 115bhp A4 it’s a revelation. 

Three quarters of a tank and it’s only saying 350 miles to go, a bit of a shock. The last one could easily do 650+ on a tank. We drive to Scotland a lot so avoiding motorway fuel will be harder.

It’s really big - much wider and taller and feels like it. I could barely get the bike racks on plus it doesn’t fit into the garage (!).

Drives very smoothly, clutch and brakes are much more “taught”. Six gears are nice too.

I detest the electric handbrake (cue flapping trying to get it on whilst simultaneously trying to pull away at every junction). The whole concept is ridiculous. I also don’t like the auto wipers which keep flapping in your face, but I think there’s a way to neutralise them.

Very stable on corners, gives loads of confidence.

Surprising amount of road noise from the tyres. 

Will report back with something more substantial in due course.

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Just to add to the discussion as I've also recentlly acquired my 2014 A4 Allroad 2.0 TDI...

I've come from a Skoda Octavia VRS petrol so I'm missing some of the acceleration performance, but the car is so much more refined I can live it.  It feels very much like an upgrade to the Skoda.

The electronic handbrake takes a little bit of getting used to.  I don't like how you sometimes have to press the footbrake to release the handbrake, all a bit of a faff and quite embaressing at the petrol pumps recently when I couldn't figure out how to pull away!

The stop-start also takes some getting used to.  I've always left my car in gear and depressed the clutch at traffic, so letting go of the clutch feels a bit strange.  Again it's also a bit of a faff as you have to get into neutral, footbrake, release clutch and then flip up the handbrake before the engine switches off.... there also seems to be some magical formula for stop-start inititation as it doesn't always work.     Then there's there the timed "engine ingition" - when you're sitting at lights at the car will just come back to life again, kind of annoying.  I haven't timed it yet but I'd guess it's about 20-30 seconds after ignition has been turned off automatically.  Maybe I'm the only one who experiences this?

The car cruises at motorways speeds admirably.  Very smooth and comfortable and it also pulls very well in 6th.  I would have liked adapative cruise control (it might be another option in higher spec models).  Holding the car on the clutch on a hill can be a bit difficult (it "wobbles" a bit at times) but that might just be me still getting used the car.

I have the model with the B&O soundsystem and the integrated subwoofer.  While it's not par with some after market subwoofer solutions, when it's cranked up to max, it actually kicks out decent and very acceptable bass if you're a music fanatic like me.  The quality of the rest of the sound components is outstanding with very minimal distortion. 

I'm also happy with the fuel consumption - I've come from a car that used to get no more 30mpg (and less than 22mpg if I booted it) and now I can easily get anywhere betwen 40 and 55 depending on it's driven.  I reckon if I drove like miss daisy, I'd see 60mpg.  On a 300 mile per week, it'll pay for itself in fuel savings.

 

On the whole I'm very impressed with it and hoping to keep it on the road for quite a few years :)

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Huskie, I’m going to lose what little credibility I have asking this question, but where’s the dipstick, please?!:whistling1:

 

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4 minutes ago, Badgerman said:

Huskie, I’m going to lose what little credibility I have asking this question, but where’s the dipstick, please?!:whistling1:

 

I'm also going to lose all credibility by saying I spent about an hour looking for it before giving up and consulting YouTube.  There an electronic engine oil level checker on the display (which apparently is all you need these days hmmm).  

 

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Seriously???? 😳 Some things on cars today are just mad and that’s one. So rather than taking two seconds to pull out a dipstick, you need to waste hours trying to reprogramme Deep Thought before giving up and asking a teenager? Bonkers!!

How long before I get low oil reassure on the M25 in the rain as there’s no oil in it........

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On 21/04/2018 at 10:58 PM, Badgerman said:

Seriously???? 😳 Some things on cars today are just mad and that’s one. So rather than taking two seconds to pull out a dipstick, you need to waste hours trying to reprogramme Deep Thought before giving up and asking a teenager? Bonkers!!

How long before I get low oil reassure on the M25 in the rain as there’s no oil in it........

Deep Thought?  A mere abacus - mention it not.  The Audi MMI is a computer those merest operation parameters Deep Thought is not worthy to calculate!  ;)

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