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Happy New Year all!

Thank you for the input pre-Christmas, all very useful and gave food for thought. 

In the end I decided against the whole S6 plan, on my budget the ones I looked at were too much of a compromise and I couldn't stretch to the required amount of money. I did take an A6 out for a run around and it was a nice car, it just wasn't what I was looking for. I decided to have a look at the S4, a little smaller but comparable to the car that I was in. 

Anyway, short story, having taken a number out and really enjoying the experience I pushed the button on this.....

So far really pleased and is a really enjoyable motor! :)

On 16/12/2017 at 9:55 AM, niedzial1983 said:

I have send the vin to the guy. Hope he will reply. 

Did you see see the car yet ?

Thanks for your help on this.

I did go and see the car and it's pretty straight, paperwork is all good and there doesn't seem any particular reason not to believe what the dealer has said so far.

My issue at the moment is that if it's taking me this long to make a decision on whether to go for it now is it going to be a nightmare to shift when it comes to sell it further down the line. I think I might pass on it and just keep looking, there's no particular rush.

12 hours ago, niedzial1983 said:

Also ask the dealer 

- warranty how long ? Usualy dealer will give up to a year after sale 

- engine swap who did it ? Invoices for engine and the job. You dont want to have a  engine from a stolen s6 :)

- between 2014 - 2016 car did almost 0 miles , why? 

- no mot in 2015/2016

Just few things i pick up checking the reg 

Piotr, I have spoken to the dealer today and got the full background on what happened with this car and why it has a random history across the last 3 or so years.

He bought it as a p/x in 2014, it had the engine management light on due to a small misfire. He took a risk on it as he thought it was a coilpack however it turned out that incorrect oil had been put into the engine on it's last service and had caused the carbon build up with essentially caused the complete failure of the engine. 

The car has spent the last few years in the shop whilst he hunted round for an engine that was exactly the same as the one that had gone bang and he said it's not easy as a lot that he came across where in a very poor state. He finally found one a few months back and it's been in his shop being put back together with the new parts being fitted on. He has the invoices which amount to £9,771.00 which is what it has taken him to get it back into the state it's in now. It's just having a final service now and will be viewable early next week. I've only spoken with him over email and on the phone however he's been very open with the issues and the hole that this car has left him in financially, circa £25,000 including the px he originally did the deal on. 

He also emailed across the VIN no so if you do have a way of double checking anything I'd greatly appreciate it. The number is WAUZZZ4F17N138057

5 hours ago, Steve Q said:

Don't forget to see if they have the service history for the recon engine. I appreciate you have seen the history for the car but the recon engine will have it's own story to tell. If they've fitted an engine but have no service history for it then you could end up with various problems if it's not been maintained properly. 

Cheers

Steve 

Thanks Steve, I've spoken to the dealership and they have full service history for the donor engine which has done 63,000.

According to the dealer the donor engine has 62k however I’ve asked for a bit more info as to the history of this engine etc. 

I’ve had another check on the car and you’re right about the MOT side of things. According to the dealer it has all the required service stamps at the required intervals however at the same time is missing MOT’s in ‘14 & ‘15. Had one in early ‘16 but then not again until very recently. 

It also appears that it’s been untaxed since  Oct ‘14.

3 minutes ago, niedzial1983 said:

Here is a link to the a6 c6 original pricing and info. You can check what was standard what was extra 

https://www.audi.co.uk/content/dam/audi/production/PDF/UsedCars/Refresh/A6/A6 - Sept 06.pdf.?utm_source=AudiOwnersClub&utm_medium=ForumLinks&utm_campaign=referrals

That’s really useful, thank you!

The warranty is 12 months, that I know. 

The engine swap was done in house and I’d already sent over an email asking for more information as to where the donor engine came from. 

You seem to have far better info than my car check (AA) came up with!

2 minutes ago, niedzial1983 said:

Get vin. I have a friend at audi that gives history for free. Also have you got any pics of the car or link to the advert ?

 

Cheers, will speak with them tomorrow morning and get that info. 

Ad link here;

https://www.randwmotorcompany.co.uk/audi-s6-avant-quattro-5dr-in-berkshire-6230354

16 minutes ago, niedzial1983 said:

Firstly 5.2 lambo engine that is in s6 is just fantastic!!!! 

None of the items you have listed are extras... 

Very expensive to run and even more expensive to fix 

Post here the reg and vin no. I should be able to check any history for you 

I’ve done a fair amount of research into the car so am entering into this with eyes wide open, having come from M3’s and RRS’s I’ve become accustomed to the ease with which they lighten your wallet! :)

I done have the vin no. however the reg is RK57 PDZ.  I did a car check on it earlier and all seemed to check out but appreciate any further info that you might be able to provide. 

4 minutes ago, Paul A6 said:

found this car in surrey near you a bit cheaper but miles a little higher 

http://cardealltd.co.uk/vehicle/name/audi-s6-s6-v10/?utm_source=carsnip&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=carsnip

Paul, I really appreciate this thank you, I'll have a look at this and give them a call. To be honest if it has a decent service history the higher miles don't bother me plus the fact that I don't do a huge amount of miles anyway. 

In answer to your last post, I agree about the honesty side of things. Having done the research on the dealer I would probably trust what they say however as you've pointed out, it would boil down to where the other engine came from. 

Looking at it these cars aren't actually a million miles apart, I might go and have a look at both.

Just now, Paul A6 said:

I`m no expert on engines but i know the S6 has a V10 engine borrowed from the Lamborghini Gallardo and if i was buying this car i would make sure its replacement engine is the same V10 type. i`m sure it will be but you have to be sure when £17000 is the asking price

A question that I have already asked and they've assured me that the engine that was donated was exactly the same as the one that it replaced and had done 60k miles. They have also said that it will come with a 12 month warranty. My experience of warranties isn't the best so I'm more concerned about what people's feelings are about buying a motor with a reconditioned engine in it.

I guess if it's been done properly then there's no issues however that might not be something I find out until further down the line. On the flip side I could buy with the original engine and it goes bang in 6 months time anyway so you never really know!!

1 minute ago, Paul A6 said:

forgot to ask is it the avant or saloon?

Avant

Thanks Paul, appreciate the input.

According to the listing;

Audi parking system advanced

Electric tilt/slide sunroof

Pearl effect paint

BOSE sound system

Adaptive lights

Privacy glass

Load area fixing kit

Storage pack

Carbon atlas - no idea what that is?

They reckon £4K worth of extras  

Hi Paul, it’s listed at £17k which doesn’t feel overpriced to me given what else I’ve seen out there......although happy to be corrected on that. I wonder whether the £9,500 figure might be what it would have cost for the job had it been done at Audi however not what they paid given it was done in house?

Afternoon,

Hoping that I can get a quick bit of advice.

I have been looking for an S6 for a while and came across one that, on paper, looked good. 55,000 miles across 10 years, 3 owners with the last having owned for 7 years. FSH with new timing chains plus lots of receipts etc. 

I have just been on the phone to the dealer as I wanted a bit more info about the work that had done and I was informed that they had issues with the car when it had come into stock as it had suffered from carbon build up which had caused the engine to suffer from compression issues. Due to this they replaced the entire engine (reconditioned) at a cost of £9,500 which is the point when they had all the new guides and chains replaced as they did not want to have any further issues with the car in the future. 

The dealer looks reputable and has good online reviews however looking for advice from those who know these cars better than I. Would the information given above put you off completely or would it still be worth a look?

TIA