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Hi fellow Audi people
Could some one point me in the direction of the reversing light switch location on an Audi A3 1.4 tfsi 3 door i think it may be at fault as I’ve changed the bulb carrier because the light unit had let in water so it was soaking wet amzingly all the bulbs worked except the reversing bulb (i have now resealed the light unit with Bison glue) all other bulbs work fine but when I select reverse a loud beeb and warning on the DIS comes up 
If someone has a part number for the switch that would be brilliant or any other idea what it may be 

thanks all

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I can't help with the switch location, but I suggest that if the reversing beep works then the switch must be working. I can't imagine there are separate switches for the light and the sounder.

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Welcome David,

Cliff raises a good point, so let’s have some clarification - do your reversing sensors work? If so the switch should be serviceable. 
Perhaps you could let us know before we move on to more complex checks. 
Kind regards,

Gareth.

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Hi Cliff and Gareth 

thanks for your replies 

My reversing sensors work fine 

If it’s not the switch then I guess it will be the wiring do you happen to know the colour of the wire that feeds the reversing light 

Thx again 

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David.

It might be damaged wiring, but it's more likely to be corroded contacts in the bolb holder or a bad earth. Am I right in assuming you fitted a new bolb? You did not specifically mention it so I have to ask.

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Hi Cliff 

Yes I replaced the bulb and the bulb holder was a brand new genuine Audi part so unlikely to be rust/corrosion I’d have thought
Do you know where I’d find the Earth for this Cliff

Thx again 

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Hi Guys 

i now have a VCD printout of the error :

 

7 Faults Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 95
                    Mileage: 168728 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2023.11.27
                    Time: 12:00:37
 
             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 12.15 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF
 
01518 - Bulb for Back-Up Lights; Left (M16) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 159
                    Reset counter: 137
                    Mileage: 168799 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2023.12.12
                    Time: 08:31:17
 
             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.75 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 On
                        OFF
                        ON
 
00987 - Lamp for Brake Light; Left (M9) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101010
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 121
                    Mileage: 168800 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2023.12.12
                    Time: 11:03:10
 
             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.85 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 On
                        OFF
                        ON
 
01501 - Bulb for Blinkers; Rear Left (M6) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 121
                    Mileage: 168801 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2023.12.12
                    Time: 11:05:26
 
             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.95 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 On
                        OFF
                        OFF
 
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 121
                    Mileage: 168813 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2023.12.13
                    Time: 11:17:26
 
             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 15.50 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 On
                        OFF
                        OFF
 
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 130
                    Mileage: 168995 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.01.18
                    Time: 09:07:15
 
             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 11.25 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF
 
00897 - Windshield Washer Pump (V5) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 131
                    Mileage: 169002 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.01.18
                    Time: 09:46:36
 
             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.75 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 On
                        OFF
                        OFF
weird its showing errors in all the bulbs as only the reverse light doesnt work also the washer pump works perfectly 
the alarm I know isn’t working 
hope this helps
thx guys

 

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Hi Jason

i will check the connector as the bulb carrier is brand new 

i have no idea where the negative earth is unfortunately is it one of the wires that goes into the connector (plug) 

thanks Jason 

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Hi Jason

thanks for the info i think i will change the connector/plug after ive checked the switch (although im still not sure where to look for the switch) as i saw a YouTube video with a similar issue to mine the new plug seems to sort his issue out 

 

thx again Jason

 

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Hi Jason

Just by a process of elimination to make sure the reversing switch is working 

all other bulbs in the real light cluster work other than the reversing light (i know the VCD printout says all the other bulbs have a intermittent fault but they have all worked since I had the car from November 2023)

I dont like getting beaten hence why I'm determined to sort this fault out 

Many thanks again Jason 

 

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Hi Jason

First of all i really appreciate your help on this 

In answer to your question i have checked the fuse same fuse controls the a/c and something else so i know thats fine

i will try the battery earth cleaning/ spraying 

i have soldered stuff before but prefer to leave it as a last resort but from what you've said changing the plug is the way to solve this once and for all 

This isn't going to beat me smiles 

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David.

I am going to leave this matter in Jason's hands as he knows far more than me, but I will add two comments.

I don't believe the statement that the reversing lights are on the same fuse as the aircon and something else. The whole idea of having multiple fuses is to ensure each circuit is independant of the others, so that failure of one does not affect other circuits. What is your source for this information?

I am not a fan of computer diagnoses without careful interpretation, however yours shows two instances of short circuits at the bolbs which suggests to me that the wiring is damaged or there is still water present somewhere in the light unit.

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Hi Jason 

With my car being a 3 door A3 there is only one reversing light on the passenger side and 1 fog light on the rear drivers side the fog light works its only the reversing light that doesn’t work

i will check the fuse you suggest I'm not sure where i got that info about the fuse sharing with a/c i must have read it some where

i was only going to remove the reversing switch to check the wiring and see if it was working 

thanks again Jason 

 

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20 minutes ago, cliffcoggin said:

David.

I am going to leave this matter in Jason's hands as he knows far than me, but I will add two comments.

I don't believe the statement that the reversing lights are on the same fuse as the aircon and something else. The whole idea of having multiple fuses is to ensure each circuit is independant of the others, so that failure of one does not affect other circuits. What is your source for this information?

I am not a fan of computer diagnoses without careful interpretation, however yours shows two instances of short circuits at the bolbs which suggests to me that the wiring is damaged or there is still water present somewhere in the light unit.

Hi Cliff

Thanks so much for your help 

 

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There seems to have been an excess of dialogue on this issue, and I can add only two more points - hopefully not with too much detail:-

If your reverse bleeper are working then it’s reasonable to believe your reverse switch is operating - as Cliff said from the outset. 

Have you checked the wiring within the flexible harness section twixt body and tailgate? This is a favourable place for wires to fracture - particularly in cold conditions. 
Oops, sorry another question- have you checked for voltages and continuity at the bulb holder? 
Personally, I would now consider engaging an hour’s services with an auto electrician if I was in your situation. 
Anyway…. 
Kind regards,

Gareth. 

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27 minutes ago, Magnet said:

There seems to have been an excess of dialogue on this issue, and I can add only two more points - hopefully not with too much detail:-

If your reverse bleeper are working then it’s reasonable to believe your reverse switch is operating - as Cliff said from the outset. 

Have you checked the wiring within the flexible harness section twixt body and tailgate? This is a favourable place for wires to fracture - particularly in cold conditions. 
Oops, sorry another question- have you checked for voltages and continuity at the bulb holder? 
Personally, I would now consider engaging an hour’s services with an auto electrician if I was in your situation. 
Anyway…. 
Kind regards,

Gareth. 

Hi Gareth

Thanks for your info on checking the wires ill do that when it finally stops raining! 

Dave

 

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Hi Jason 

Well I've looked for the fuse for the reversing light switch as per your message 

“Tech bits .. the central controller is responsible for  reverse lights code 09-Cent-Elect .. but that's a whole new chapter  

CHECK F4 FUSE which is a 5Amp fuse in passenger side 

CHECK the wires in the plug terminal on the Reversing Switch”

im really confused now as there is no fuse box on the passenger side (i removed the plastic trim to look)  its on the drivers side i cant find any fuse that covers the reversing light anywhere including the fuse box inside of the engine compartment 

i will go ahead and change the plug once the weather improves 

again thanks for your help Jason 

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Hi Jason 

ive checked fuse F4 which is all good drivers side

opened the fuse box in the engine there is no fuse in F5 or F7 (see pic) it looks like i have the 30 fuse version in the engine compartment 

i also checked the wiring in the black gator on the boot there appears to be no damage to any of the wires within the gator 

cheers Jason 

 

 

 

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Hi Jason I’m pretty sure this is the reversing switch all looks good inside no noticeable damage or anything once id removed the plug 

Im at a complete loss now 

i dont have an multimeter unfortunately

 

 

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Hi again All

a little update 

I’ve finally bit the bullet and rewired the rear lights with a new plug which came with about 15mm of wire and guess what I still have no Reversing light same error comes up on the Dash “left rear reversing light not working” (with a picture of a bulb with a line through it)

all the other lights in that cluster work brakes, indicator, lights 

so im at a complete loss now anybody go any suggestions ?

heres a printout from VCD 

01518 - Bulb for Back-Up Lights; Left (M16) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 190
                    Mileage: 168799 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2023.12.12
                    Time: 08:31:17
 
             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.75 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 On
                        OFF
                        ON
 
00153 - Windshield Wiper Motor;  Driver Side (V216) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 164
                    Mileage: 169434 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.03.18
                    Time: 13:42:33
 
             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.65 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 On
                        OFF
                        OFF
 
00927 - Terminal 30 (Right) 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 164
                    Mileage: 169434 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2024.03.18
                    Time: 13:42:49
 
             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.65 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 On
                        OFF
                        OFF
 
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 164
                    Mileage: 168813 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2023.12.13
                    Time: 11:17:26
 
             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 15.50 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 On
                        OFF
                        OFF

thanks again all

 

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Hello David,

This has been going on for some time, and without reading back over all the posts:-

Have you checked the flexible harness section twixt tailgate and body - looking for fractured wires? 
Have you now got yourself a multi-meter? 
Kind regards,

Gareth. 

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