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Hi Gareth Jason would of known what was what, everything that could be useless or misleading all available from google. Steve.

Apologies for the now understandable confusion in the middle. JasonJ who was a contributor to this thread is no longer with us. Kind regards, Gareth.

Audi have taken this feature off for some reason and now only have front ones running. I said how stupid as its a good safety feature so people can see you when behind but he said audi are safe . I've noticed many other things my 67 plate audi had that this new one doesn't and asked him all about those as well to which he had no answer, seems to me they have concentrated on the computer/screen in car and dash and missed a lot of basic stuff off

Funny you should mention that, I read about the much later models (2020 onwards I believe? ) having "Code Blockers" so to speak built into them for the exact reason you give, plus the issuing of the "Token" to accepted users only gives them information of any work already performed and also logs the info for further down the line viewing ....... Technology Steve, as far as vehicles are concerned in the future it will render anyone other than Fully Authorised independents and Main Agents from working on just about anything from 2020 onwards ........ ie: they get to charge whatever they want as no small independents or mechanics will be able to replace or code any parts that may need it, apparently that's progress ! no wonder I love vehicles from the 1950's 60's and 70's and into the 80's, everything was so much simpler.

Might be worth speaking to retrofitters such as autologics or Audi retrofits as members have used them in the past and they have been happy with the results. Might be able to activate them via vcds or obd11 etc.