Hi folks, I will have to replace clutch kit on Audi a3, 2010, 1.6 tdi, manual gearbox, my car is start/stop version, apparently when I am looking for clutches online, there is difference in price between non start /stop and start/stop. Is there big difference between them ? Them are not interchangeable ? 

Hello Maris,

Your profile shows 2008, but you enquire about a 2010 -? 
Is the 2010 you enquire about definitely fitted with S/S?

What brands are you looking to buy, and where have you searched so far?

Regards,

Gareth. 

Hi, that’s my wife’s car , trying sort it out. 
don’t have in my mind any brand yet. I’ve seen online shops selling clutch for non stop/start cars and start/stop systems, for some reason also cost more. Wonder there is significant difference between them to justify higher costs ? Different metal or it uses different starters with different teeth sizes .  
haven’t took it off yet, as car been driven on daily bases . 

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Think the most common at Luk. 

2 hours ago, Mar4ix said:

Hi, that’s my wife’s car , trying sort it out. 
don’t have in my mind any brand yet. I’ve seen online shops selling clutch for non stop/start cars and start/stop systems, for some reason also cost more. Wonder there is significant difference between them to justify higher costs ? Different metal or it uses different starters with different teeth sizes .  
haven’t took it off yet, as car been driven on daily bases . 

Hi if you have stop start and the vehicle is fitted with a dual mass flywheel the ring gear for stop start and the flywheel are made to a higher specification to allow for the inertia of stop start driving.

Steve 

So does it have stop/ start or not?

As has been said, LUK is the recommendation. 
Try reputable sellers on EBay. I avoid ECP and Autodoc.  Favour Parts in Motion for good service at competitive prices. 
Please come back with an answer. 

Hi, thanks for suggestions, at the moment looking on conversion to single mass flywheel, apparently price on them is more appealing. Will take couple weeks till resolve issues with clutch . 
 

thanks.

54 minutes ago, Mar4ix said:

Hi, thanks for suggestions, at the moment looking on conversion to single mass flywheel, apparently price on them is more appealing. Will take couple weeks till resolve issues with clutch . 
 

thanks.

It's cheaper but the problem is you're just moving the stresses and vibration further up. So I'd recommend duel mass flywheel In my opinion. Sach is the other well know supplier 

Getting fed up of asking the same question - which you are ignoring to answer, for some unknown reason. 
 

Again! Car fitted with Stop/start or not? 

2 minutes ago, Magnet said:

Getting fed up of asking the same question - which you are ignoring to answer, for some unknown reason. 
 

Again! Car fitted with Stop/start or not? 

Sorry about you’ve been upset for some reason, but shouldn’t be, … as I was looking to get answers about is there actually difference. 
 

But yes, it is equipped with start/stop function . 
 

thanks

Who said anything about being upset?
If the failure to respond to sensible questions asked on here, then I’d be a constant state of being upset sunshine! 
The only logic I can follow from your request, is based solely on ‘cheapest option’. 
Since we now know your vehicle is indeed fitted with S/S then it’s a simple task of sourcing the correct  quality parts at the most competitive prices.

Seems a pretty simple bit of logic to follow - well at least to me. 
Good luck with that. 

56 minutes ago, Magnet said:

Who said anything about being upset?
If the failure to respond to sensible questions asked on here, then I’d be a constant state of being upset sunshine! 
The only logic I can follow from your request, is based solely on ‘cheapest option’. 
Since we now know your vehicle is indeed fitted with S/S then it’s a simple task of sourcing the correct  quality parts at the most competitive prices.

Seems a pretty simple bit of logic to follow - well at least to me. 
Good luck with that. 

Sorry not answering speedy enough to your question, as sometimes I am on move , and members request about extra information slips off my attention. 

You guessed right, I am looking for cheapest option.

Get same effect for smaller price, and it is nothing wrong with this, as other family expenses takes majority of my money, reason is gathering information what actual difference between those type clutches, and if them interchangeable . Might someone works for car par shop, and can put them side to side and compare, what actual difference .

I’ll bet that’s starter teething difference .

But thanks for your input. 
 

 

As I say, even though single flywheel conversion sounds tempting as it's cheaper it can cause more vibrations and put strain on other components. 

Definitely look at Luk or sach. When I was looking for my A6 a good while back, believe it or not darkside developments was one of the cheapest 

32 minutes ago, Steve Q said:

As I say, even though single flywheel conversion sounds tempting as it's cheaper it can cause more vibrations and put strain on other components. 

Definitely look at Luk or sach. When I was looking for my A6 a good while back, believe it or not darkside developments was one of the cheapest 

Thanks for advice .

I have  Sachs on my 08 Audi a3, bkd . It serves very well. I’ve replaced it something 7 years ago at around 280 k kms. Now is 438 k kms . 

Two years ago,  car developed heavy gearbox side crankshaft seal leak, (also were leaking fuel/vacuum pump, and valve cover were leaking )

 I’ve replaced seals, and whole clutch was pretty wet. 
I know , that, would make sense replace whole clutch system, therefor due my limited funds for car, only option was give a good clean to DMF, clutch pressure plate with friction disc brought to machine shop, where linings on friction disk was replaced , cleaned through out, pressure plate checked (at costs of 40 euros).

  Even I’ve left old bearing (I know, that’s silly, but money talks), which was in good condition. 
now driving second year , and clutch system still good . 
 

yea, all works doing myself , garage visits only for tyre replacements and wheel alignments. 

Sachs - Under the same umbrella as LUK. 

So could we ask what symptoms you have with this car’s clutch mechanism, and if cost is king, then do you intend simply renewing only part of the assembly - or all of it? 
If cost is indeed king, I guess you can by pass quality LUK/ Sachs components and fit other cheaper spurious  aftermarket brands.

Regards,

Gareth.

p.s. Being realistic rather than pessimistic, I think it’s a very tall order that any members on here work for motorfactors, and if they did, they would have to order both kits, since parts are generally obtained to order rather than being retained on the shelf. 
Having said that, you might find I’m wrong. 
Regards,

Gareth. 

Maris.

I do not know it there is a different clutch on stop/start and non stop/start cars, but logically there must be else nobody would fit the more expensive one.

Note Stevey Y's comments about the ring gear difference between DMF and standard flywheels, so if you plan to change to standard you need to check whether the starter motor also needs to be changed.

1 hour ago, Magnet said:

So could we ask what symptoms you have with this car’s clutch mechanism, and if cost is king, then do you intend simply renewing only part of the assembly - or all of it? 
If cost is indeed king, I guess you can by pass quality LUK/ Sachs components and fit other cheaper spurious  aftermarket brands.

Regards,

Gareth.

p.s. Being realistic rather than pessimistic, I think it’s a very tall order that any members on here work for motorfactors, and if they did, they would have to order both kits, since parts are generally obtained to order rather than being retained on the shelf. 
Having said that, you might find I’m wrong. 
Regards,

Gareth. 

Very strong rattling sound when car started (dual mass flywheel bad, car have 200k miles on clocks) , easing off when car in operating temperature. Could be bad bearing also, but once clutch pedal pressed , no any sound going. 
Gareth , you are not wrong . I do understand that there very little to nothing chance carpart shop would have both type clutches on stock . Might somebody have ordered for S/s , but accidentally received regular(non s/s), or vice versa, and then had to bring back to exchange to right one , so might somebody knows the difference between these two…

Thanks 👍

10 hours ago, Mar4ix said:

Thanks for advice .

I have  Sachs on my 08 Audi a3, bkd . It serves very well. I’ve replaced it something 7 years ago at around 280 k kms. Now is 438 k kms . 

Two years ago,  car developed heavy gearbox side crankshaft seal leak, (also were leaking fuel/vacuum pump, and valve cover were leaking )

 I’ve replaced seals, and whole clutch was pretty wet. 
I know , that, would make sense replace whole clutch system, therefor due my limited funds for car, only option was give a good clean to DMF, clutch pressure plate with friction disc brought to machine shop, where linings on friction disk was replaced , cleaned through out, pressure plate checked (at costs of 40 euros).

  Even I’ve left old bearing (I know, that’s silly, but money talks), which was in good condition. 
now driving second year , and clutch system still good . 
 

yea, all works doing myself , garage visits only for tyre replacements and wheel alignments. 

If you can do the work yourself then that's a big plus as it's the labour that costs 

Thanks Maris,

Being realistic, the chance of the situation you refer to in your last sentence occurring ( with members on here) is so remote that you just have to forget that possibility. 

What is the aftermarket price difference in the DMF and the solid one? 

Not best practice, but if price is critical, have you considered a secondhand DMF? 

Regards,

Gareth.

10 hours ago, Magnet said:

Thanks Maris,

Being realistic, the chance of the situation you refer to in your last sentence occurring ( with members on here) is so remote that you just have to forget that possibility. 

What is the aftermarket price difference in the DMF and the solid one? 

Not best practice, but if price is critical, have you considered a secondhand DMF? 

Regards,

Gareth.

Yes , I am considering second hand one, there is few options . Next week hopefully I’ll have a time remove gearbox, see what condition clutch set  is, read part number and shop around few scrapyards .